Piers Morgan: You're always very keen to take a view, even if they're unproven, that is anti-American. You're never quite so keen to take a view that is anti-dictator. ...
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It's not whether they're dictators or not, it's what the United States' role is. I don't believe that any country can arrogate this task of bringing down other countries' governments. The CIA has been involved in probably 90 or 100 covert regime change operations since it was founded in 1947. My whole life has been the United States at war. It's sickening. It's tiring. These wars are disasters. It's just not our business to say, "That one's despicable. That one has to go." But literally this is what Obama did. It's a shame that he did this. He said, "Assad must go." ... Literally, Piers, it's been 13 years of mass killing since then, no resolution at all. Completely predictable. This is what I'm against.
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Jeffrey Sachs as interviewed by Piers Morgan, December 5, 2024